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is message is a confirmation of the email you sent regarding an ad on Classifieds2000. Please do NOT respond to this message ----------COPY-----------COPY--------------COPY---------------COPY----------- This is a response to your advertisement on Classifieds2000. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $850, Used, New York, NY http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R16289 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3/29/99 Do you still have the laptop? How is payment and shipping made? Thank you in advance Jim -->> To see the original ad, please go to: http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R16289 ------------------ Thank you for using Classifieds2000! --------------------- Did you know that Classifieds2000 has Collectibles? We've got thousands of items - from Furbys to trading cards to art & antiques. Join the excitement of Auctions or browse through the classifieds. We've got it all! http://198.3.101.60:80/clickover/ClickOver.ybpBuIwj-KvUYYYYAYAqwXhq Are you looking for someone to join you on Saturday morning bike rides? Or someone else who's crazy about Elton John concerts? A partner in crime for your backpacking trip? You just might find someone in Friends. http://198.3.101.60:80/clickover/ClickOver.ybpBuK1hIpvUYYYYSYAqwXhq Interested in a deal on a computer or computer equipment? We've got desktops, notebooks, software, hardware, network equipment, and just anything else you're looking for at Classifieds2000. All at bargain prices! http://198.3.101.60:80/clickover/ClickOver.ybpBuMzbNl7UYYYYKYAqwXhq If you have any comments or experience any problems, send email to [email protected] Hi. Thank you for your interest in my (Wall St.) Powerbook/250. The specs are just as in the ad. 14 inch Active Matrix screen. 56K modem. CD, Floppy, IMMACULATE CONDITION! I will ship overnight via Fedex. The fastest and most secure payment method is to use Western Union. You make payment to them (either in person with cash, or over the phone with a credit card). They will issue me a check. I need to go in person with my drivers license to pick up the check. This is instant, so I can send the laptop on the SAME DAY you make payment. If you make payment today you will get the computer tomorrow. Call Western Union at 1-800-325-4176. Western Union will charge a fee for this service, which I will deduct from your cost. Have them make the payment to me for $750: Robert Flack 354 West 36th St. Penthouse C New York, NY 10019 The other $100 should by far cover the fee. The rest is your discount. Email me the control number you get from Western Union and your full name and shipping address. If you make payment before 9:30 PM today I will ship the laptop tonight and you will get it tomorrow. If not, make the payment and I will ship in the morning. I will email you the tracking number I get from Fedex immediately after I ship it. Let me know, Robert Flack Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com Robert: Number # 8970491123 Called in 3:40 pm EST Will be there approx 10 mins Thank you for the Precise instructions that you gave! Sincerly Jim Gracie Owner Lil Shop of Horrors 348 main Street Latrobe, Pa. 15650-1563 1 724 537-8913 Voice 1 724 539-7707 Fax info from Web: http://lowendmac.com/pb/250.shtml 3/30/99 @15:46 pm Est Replied Email Hi. I'll email you after I send it. Robert Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com 11:30 am Est 3/31/99 Dear Frank; I guess that you did not mail out the Powerbook Duo/250 last night? Cause Fedex delivered boxes but not the one I was looking for. Well When ever you get the fedex Tracking number just pop a email . Thanks Again Jim Gracie Emma Gatlin wrote: Hello Classifieds2000 I am not ready to cry wolf yet, But I think that I may be a victim of a fraud caused by one of your advertisers. As of today 5:59 pm est, I have not received the promissed item (laptop) of a reply email from the person that I am dealing with. Please see the attached information of the ad and the correspondence thus far. If you have any help that you are able to provide, I will be appreciative and renue my confidence of shopping online. This is the 1st time that i may be burned in over 3 years of buying. Other information of importance is that I called as instructed by the seller, to the western union to money transfer the Control Number if the transastion is #8970491123 The order was called into 800 325 4176 to the western union office at 3:40 pm yesterday 3/30/99 and the representive Dana #181 took the money order for $750.00 + 71.oo fee total the amount $821.00 that was placed on my Visa Card Today I called at 1:25 pm and spoke to Coco #895 I asked if the transfer went thru, She verified that the monies was picked up by Robert Flack at the Bronx office at 7:25 pm yesterday, He originally quoted that he will ship it out via FEDEX and email back the tracking number. So far not a reply...I was to receive the item this morning,. I will wait till Monday, Due to the Holiday Weekend Here is the other info I have for Robert Flack - 354 West 36th Street - Penthouse C --- New Yoprk, Ny. 10019 there is no phone number provided on the emails, I tried to look it up on the internet in the white pages, but was unable to find one listed, The email account that he is emailing from is : "Emma Gatlin" As you will see He is very presise in the instructions on how to do the transfer, So i thought that he will be reliable to deal with! Below will be all the Correspondence to date at 6:11pm 03/31/99 Thanking you in advance for any and all help that you are able to provide in this matter..... Or helping me to contact the proper officials that are able to enforce intra state wire fraud punishment Sincerly James H. Graice, Jr. ================================================================================== This message is a confirmation of the email you sent regarding an ad on Classifieds2000. Please do NOT respond to this message ----------COPY-----------COPY--------------COPY---------------COPY----------- This is a response to your advertisement on Classifieds2000. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $850, Used, New York, NY http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R16289 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3/29/99 Do you still have the laptop? How is payment and shipping made? Thank you in advance Jim -->> To see the original ad, please go to: http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R16289 ==================================================== 3/30/99 Hi. Thank you for your interest in my (Wall St.) Powerbook/250. The specs are just as in the ad. 14 inch Active Matrix screen. 56K modem. CD, Floppy, IMMACULATE CONDITION! I will ship overnight via Fedex. The fastest and most secure payment method is to use Western Union. You make payment to them (either in person with cash, or over the phone with a credit card). They will issue me a check. I need to go in person with my drivers license to pick up the check. This is instant, so I can send the laptop on the SAME DAY you make payment. If you make payment today you will get the computer tomorrow. Call Western Union at 1-800-325-4176. Western Union will charge a fee for this service, which I will deduct from your cost. Have them make the payment to me for $750: Robert Flack 354 West 36th St. Penthouse C New York, NY 10019 The other $100 should by far cover the fee. The rest is your discount. Email me the control number you get from Western Union and your full name and shipping address. If you make payment before 9:30 PM today I will ship the laptop tonight and you will get it tomorrow. If not, make the payment and I will ship in the morning. I will email you the tracking number I get from Fedex immediately after I ship it. Let me know, Robert Flack Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com =================================================== 3/30/99 Hi. I'll email you after I send it. Robert ==================================================== ***** Below are My Emails that have been sent so far ****** (none have been of any nasty nature, But this may soon change) *As you can see I included the ship to address and all other pertanant information to contact me** ================================================================================== 3/30/99 Robert: Western Union Number # 8970491123 Called in 3:40 pm EST Will be there approx 10 mins Thank you for the Precise instructions that you gave! Sincerly Jim Gracie Owner Lil Shop of Horrors 348 main Street Latrobe, Pa. 15650-1563 1 724 537-8913 Voice 1 724 539-7707 Fax ============================================================= 3/31/99 11:30 am Est 3/31/99 Dear Frank; I guess that you did not mail out the Powerbook Duo/250 last night? 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Thank you for contacting Classifieds2000. Your message has been received. You will be sent a personal response as soon as possible. WE ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING A LARGE NUMBER OF EMAIL MESSAGES, THEREFORE OUR CURRENT RESPONSE TIME WILL BE DELAYED 4 OR MORE BUSINESS DAYS. THANK YOU, Classifieds2000 Product Support ---------------- 04/01/99 10:20 am Attn. Mr. Robert Flack: Unless the laptop is received by FRIDAY 4/2/99 This is being turned over to officials for prosecution for using the internet as a means to commit fraud. I have notified people of this situation and current actions are temporarily being held until I initiate the legal actions against you. Sincerely Jim Gracie Well I got the reply phone call from nancy at western union, and she gave the following info: Robert Flack came to pick up the Money Proof of ID CALIF. DRIVERS LIVENCE # 245 134 792 Expires Dec. 2001 SOCIAL SECURITY # 245 134 792 (same as above she said) Height Approx. 6 ft Brown Eyes Brown Hair Address on License: 1142 Wiltshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA. 90237 (213) 792 8238 ============ She said that she is placing this in the fraud division and for me to contact the Consumer Fraud people at 800 876 7060 for electronic deceptions I also should contact my local police to iniate the crime then they will issue a case number ============ She also said that the fee of 71.00 will be refunded if and when this crime is closed. and that the other moneys 750.00 will have to be from the prosecution processes. =========== She said that so far I am doing a good job in keeping pertinent information of all the steps taken thus far. Well this is where it stands now! TTFN Me *ps, setting up a email folder for all the related transmissions in this matter* Dear Classifieds2000 Customer, Thank you for contacting Classifieds2000 with your inquiry. 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If you did file this report, then it has been received and will be processed. Your report will be forwarded electronically to a variety of interested federal, state and local law enforcement agencies - including those in your state/province and the state/province in which the company is located. Thank you. ---------- Complainant: Jim Gracie Year of Birth: 1955 Organization: aquapets Address 1: 348 main street Address 2: City: latrobe State/Province: PA Zip/Postal Code: 15650 Country (if not US or Canada): Home Phone:(724) 539-3136 Work Phone:(724) 537-8913 Other Phone: Company Name: robert flack (and or) emma gatlin Address 1: 354 west 36th street Address 2: penthouse c City: new york State: NY Zip/Postal Code: 10019 Country (if not US or Canada): Phone: () - Representative or Company Contact: robert flack Initial Contact: Website URL: none E-Mail: "Emma Gatlin" > Amount of Money Requested: $750.00 Amount Paid: $821.00 Payment Method: VISA Issuing Bank: nations Courier: western union Date of Transaction: 03/30/99 Summary of Events: Other information of importance is that I called as instructedby the seller, to the western union to money transfer the Control Number if the transastion is #8970491123 The order was called into 800 325 4176 to the western union office at 3:40 pm yesterday 3/30/99 and the representive Dana #181 took the money order for $750.00 + 71.oo fee total the amount $821.00 that was placed on my Visa Card Today I called at 1:25 pm and spoke to Coco #895 I asked ifthe transfer went thru, She verified that the monies was picked up by Robert Flack at the Bronx office at 7:25 pm yesterday, He originally quoted that he will ship it out via FEDEXand email back the tracking number. So far not a reply...I was to receive the item this morning,. Iwill wait till Monday, Due to the Holiday Weekend Here is the other info I have for Robert Flack - 354 West 36thStreet - Penthouse C --- New York, Ny. 10019 there is no phone number provided on the emails, I tried to look it up on the internet in the white pages, but was unable to find one listed, The email account that he is emailing from is :"EmmaGatlin"[email protected]> 4/2/99 3:20 pm Est. Robert: Too late, I now have contacted the law! ** So you can now have the option to re pay the money that you scammed out of me! Western union it back to me on monday, Or if not Suffer the consequences Amount Paid: $821.00 Email me the western union control number MONDAY!!! == Subject: Online Report on robert flack (and or) emma gatlin Jim Your report will be forwarded electronically to a variety of interested federal, state and local law enforcement agencies - including those in your state/province and the state/province in which the company is located. Thank you. Your submission to Customer Service is being tracked as Case 00182793. A Customer Service Representative will contact you via the Primary and/or Secondary Email address(es) you specified, providing you with a response to your inquiry. ===== Okay A brand new ad is starting to appear... This time he is selling 2 PC�s And 1 Mac Laptop == I had 2 friends send robert (what ever last name he is using at the moment See the SIMULARITY in the Reply email he sends out This was 5/5/99 In a message dated 5/6/99 4:05:52 PM, [email protected] writes: << Hi. Thank you for your interest in my PB G3/233. 13.3 inch Active Matrix screen. modem. CD, Floppy, Zip, etc. Fair firm price of $850 includes overnight shipping and insurance. There is 4 months left on the warrantee, plus I will enclose a signed, notarized, 30 day unconditional money back guarantee from me. It is in IMMACULATE CONDITION! I will ship overnight via Fedex. The fastest and most secure payment method is to use Western Union. You make payment to them (either in person with cash, or over the phone with a credit card). They will issue me a check. I need to go in person with my drivers license to pick up the check. They write down my drivers licence number for your protection. This is instant, so I can send the laptop on the SAME DAY you make payment. If you make payment today, you will get the computer tomorrow. Call Western Union at 1-800-325-4176. W.U. will charge a fee for this service, which I will deduct from your cost. Have them make the payment to me for $750: Robert Anderson 354 West 38th St. Penthouse B New York, NY 10019 The other $100 should cover the Western Union fee. Email me the control number you get from Western Union and your full name and shipping address. If you make payment before 9:30 PM tonight I will ship the laptop tonight and you will get it tomorrow. If not, make the payment and I will ship in the morning. I will email you the tracking number I get from Fedex immediately after I ship it. Let me know, Robert Anderson Free email & chat @ http://www.surfy.net & accurate searches @ http://www.surfy.com Powered by OutBlaze ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 17:05:52 -0400 Received: from outblaze2.outblaze.com (outblaze2.outblaze.com [209.249.50.97]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 17:04:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 23336 invoked by uid 501); 6 May 1999 19:34:15 -0000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 3.204 (ME 3.204 ) From: "Clara Anderson" To: [email protected] Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 03:34:15 +0800 Subject: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 >> SEE that he has chjanged his last name, and mail service! this time Classifieds HAD 3 NEGITAVE REMARKS..... I wish that I would have known this last month> ------- Comments about videogamerguy +/- Submitted From - 05/06 04:31 PM mdinowitz THIS IS A SCAM!!! DON'T SEND MONEY!!! This deal is too good to be true. - 05/06 06:14 AM dynamojoe He is. The name/addr is the same from a March post in which someone DID lose $. - 05/05 10:02 PM kjance super deals,no COD, no recourse if he cheats, sounds like a crook, doesn't he? ____ his LATEST REPLY TO A FRIEND HELPING ME... Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 >Hi. Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner. I have >been in Atlantic City since Saturday. I still have the >note book. I am holding for you til Thursday. Email me >the control number and shipping address after you make >payment. > >Robert Ande > >Free email & chat @ http://www.surfy.net & accurate searches @ http://www.surfy.com > > >Powered by OutBlaze As 0f 5/15/99 7:14 pm EST Stay tuned for UPDATE |
If you have been SCAMMED from HIM or any of his AILIAS NAMES!!!!! PLEASE SEND ME EMAIL!!!! I have Contacted the F.B.I. And we are trying to build a list of people that he has scammed out of monies
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| UPDATES to page - (email addresses and names Deleted by request) >From: Excite >To: >Subject: COPY: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 >Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 4:51:57 -0700 >This message is a confirmation of the email you sent regarding an ad on >Excite Classifieds & Auctions. Please do NOT respond to this message >----------COPY-----------COPY--------------COPY---------------COPY----------- >This is a response to your advertisement on classifieds.excitecorp.com. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $850, Used, New York, NY >http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R19880 >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >videogameguy, I wonder if you can hold on the laptop till i get my refund >from >the irs?my refund is due sometime in late june.also can i come to your >place >to try out the laptop to make sure it works right, i live in new jersey and >i >can drive to the city to see..also i dont check this email often since i >have >to go to the libary to read emails and the internet. i think that this is >the >laptop that will help me get on the internet on my own...or if you cannot >wait >till the refund comes, will you be willing to take layaway payments? >thank >you for your time. bye for now ,todd >-->> To see the original ad, please go to: >http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R19880 >*** Thank you for using Excite Classifieds & Auctions! *** ===== Since he asked if possible to go to see it in person........ Of course ......that was not replied...... it seems that he dosent want face to face deals? ===== Subject: robert flack Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:19:20 -0700 From: "DELETED EMAIL ADDRESSS To: [email protected] hello, i just wanted to let you know that i, too, was ripped off by the so called "Robert Flack." I was wondering if you could help me as I am trying to find out what kind of recourse I have. I called the local FBI (here in San Diego) and also managed to reach the police in NY... The police here told me to call NY... Is there anything else that I can do? Is anyone proceeding w/ a lawsuit? I am a college student and would very much like my $800 back that I lost... Any input would be greatly appreciated. :) Thank you, -deleted name San Diego, CA ===== ===== RE: one of your people is using your service to commit Crimes Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:03:04 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel demer To: [email protected] Hi, I have looked at the page and do not understand the whole problem. We can change the password of any member given they are spamming or otherwise causing harm. We can read the name and address info as well but I presume this might not be accurate if they are doing illegal activity. Let us know. Bye .. Daniel On Sat, 15 May 1999 20:19:33 -0400, you wrote: >http://business.fortunecity.com/lucar/865/ >Dear Surfy Net Management: >One of your e-mail people is using your service to Commit >Internet Fraud, >I have placed a call to our area FEDERAL BUEREAU OF >INVESTIGATIONS >Read the Url Link above to find out the Scammers Game! >If you have any way to Provide HIS REAL NAME & ADDRESS it >will help matters >of processicution >Sincerly >Jim Gracie ======= Subject: Fwd: [Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000] Date: 17 May 99 12:55:29 EDT From: jgracie To: [email protected] FORWARDED Please Notice, Do not reply to this ADDRESS! reply to [email protected] As of April USA.NET has been taken over by American Express, And THEY CHARGE NOW to FORWARD Emails....... Please ADJUST YOUR Address Book NOW! Thank You ! Jim Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com Subject: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:46:10 -0700 From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS This is a response to your advertisement on Excite Classifieds & Auctions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 68030, Color Display, $850, Used, Latrobe, PA http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R20007 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey- I saw your post on C2K. Good luck on nailing this scumbag. Sorry to hear you lost money. I hope you get it back. I was suspicious of his first message, and had a friend send him a message. When he got the exact same reply (which is the one you got as well) I realised this was a scam and wrote c2k e-mail. Sorry it wasn't in time to help you... Again, best of luck. Keep us posted! DELETED NAME Contact Information: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS ====== Okay I had a friend send email to a different laptop to see if the reply is simular? ===== Subject: COPY: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:50:16 -0700 From: Excite To: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS This message is a confirmation of the email you sent regarding an ad on Excite Classifieds & Auctions. Please do NOT respond to this message ----------COPY-----------COPY--------------COPY---------------COPY----------- This is a response to your advertisement on classifieds.excitecorp.com. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $800, New, -, NY http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R20013 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me some information on this exciting buy! I am looking to purchase within a few days if it is what Iwant!!Thank You! -->> To see the original ad, please go to: http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R20013 ===== Subject: Laptop Update.... Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:02:14 -0400 (EDT) From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] = Giminees!!!!!! It sure doesn't take some people too long to res[ond..try about 5 minutes!!! (Interesting, there was no name as the sender of this information to me!!!) Could it be??? ================ Then this Reply originally came back: > Hi.. Unlisted It`s still available and in new conditions, i came by it as a debt repaid so honestly i don`t know much more than is in the ad, i took it to compUSA to get checked out so i know it works great but that`s all. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ==== Okay It dosen�t sound the same, But We are trying to get more info currently 5/18/99 ==== Subject: ?? Need Assistance... Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] Jim, Give me some technical questions to ask this joker,,, as if to pretend I want to really buy... I never traded/bought on Classified Web Site.. Later! Your PJama Gal.. ================= She then Sent this to see if it comes as a Copy paste reply? === Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:57:31 -0400 (EDT) From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] (- -) Dear Mrl "Unlisted"........Thank You for your quick response to your Powerbook. Is it still available?? I neeed to make a decision by toworrow as I need to take it for a appointment. Could you pleze tell me if this is downloaded with Windows 95 or Windows 98 or what? I appreciate your help. (DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS) If it is easier, give me your phone number and I can call you to get details. THANKS! ================= AS of today No reply.......... Sorry that this is getting out of order from the different people, I am copy/pasting in order received from all over, and in sequence to the email folder set up ---------------------------- Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:42:22 -0700 From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] This is a response to your advertisement on Excite Classifieds & Auctions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 68030, Color Display, $800, Used, Latrobe, PA http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R20007 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi: Noted your post about the scammer on Classifieds 2000 "selling" Mac Powerbooks. I almost got took in by this but got suspicious when I wanted to drive to NYC from Washington and pick up the PB. Never got another reply. So I had my daughter log in and show interest and she got a come n response much like you and I got so I knew something was up. I then sent an email to Classified 2000 reporting him as a scammer and asking them to remove the ad. I got an absurd response so I just disregarded. I kept the emails between the jerk and I and him and my daughter. If you want copies to help build your case, just let me know and I'll send them to you. Different names but very similar addresses in NYC 10014. Have corresponded with a woman in NJ that also go took and she gave me the name of a NYC detective that is supposedly investigating. If you need any of my emails, just let me know. Can't believe the son of a (deleted word) still has two ads on the board - one under "videoguy" and can't remember the second. Contact Information:DELETED NAME & PHONE NUMBER =================== If you remember above i sent to classifieds 2000 about the scam, and got a canned reply, Scroll up to re-read =================== Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:20:00 -0400 (EDT) From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] Hi, sure. Cut and paste what you want. Please warn me ahead of time of legal proceedings, though. DELETED NAME ============= [Fwd: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000] Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:33:05 -0400 From:DELETED NAME To: [email protected] Here is the chain of emails from the lady in New Jersey (I think). Not too adept at chaining emails together so may just have to send you a number of them but will gather all I have and send it on. Good luck. DELETE NAME -------- Original Message -------- Received: from mx06.erols.com ([207.172.3.248]) by mta1.mail.erols.net(InterMail v03.02.07.03 118-128) with ESMTPid <[email protected]>for Received: from n21atm0.shu.edu (n21atm0.shu.edu [149.150.209.21])by mx06.erols.com (8.8.8-970530/8.8.5/MX-980323-gjp) with SMTP id NAA14510for Received: from mindrive ([153.34.201.210]) by n21atm0.shu.edu (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) with SMTP id 8525674E.006262C6; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:54:38 -0400 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "SHU" To: References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Mozilla-Status: 8013 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: <[email protected]> Hi, Thank you for coming forward with your help. Yes there is an investigation that is taking place right now in NY. Please contact Don Callahan 212-374-4247, he works for the NYPD's Computer Fraud Division. Please give him all your details of what happened. Including names, addresses, etc. Thank you, it's people like you that reassure me to trust others again. Hope to hear from you again. ----- Original Message ----- From: DELETED NAME To:DELETED NAME Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 > DELETED NAME > I, too, would like to see this dirtbag caught. Since I didn't buy and wasn't > scammed, don't think there is anything I can do. However, if you learn about > anyone doing an investigation, I did keep all the emails I sent and those I > received. The name he/she used with me was Ronald Black and the name used with > my daughter was DELETED NAME. Again, anything I can do to help, please let me > know. > DELETED NAME > DELETED NAME wrote: > > Hello, > > Thank you for your response, I am hoping that I will get more responses > > from people like you. I would like to keep in touch with you. I had > > told classifieds2000 about this and they didn't take the ad down for > > four days. I have come to know, that about 20 people got scammed (maybe > > more). I also hold classifieds2000 partly resposible for my situation. > > I did the samething you did, I also emailed him from another account but > > never got a reply, so I trusted him. I was still suspicious, I live in > > NJ and I told him that I can come pick it up or that I would send the > > money via mail (bank cheque). But he was adament on recieving the money > > via western union. I guess I was just too trusting.. I have done > > numerous transactions via the web and all were successful. Well I thank > > you once again, if my credit card doesn't refund me for this scam, I > > might hold Classifieds2000 responsible.. but I don't know if the will > > pay damages. Well I hope to hear from you. > > >From: DELETED NANE > > >To: DELETED NAME > > >Subject: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 > > >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 6:14:25 -0700 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >FromDELETED Tue Apr 06 06:16:18 1999 > > >Received: from [198.3.99.151] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id > > MHotMailB8D3542200FAD820B645C60363979D6D0; Tue Apr 06 06:16:18 1999 > > >Received: from classifieds2000.com (c2klog10.classifieds2000.com > > [198.3.101.210])by gouda.excite.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id > > GAA21628for > > (PDT) > > >Message-Id: <[email protected]> > > >X-Sender:DELETED > > >X-Mailer: CGI-SMTP > > >X-C2KInfo: 198.3.101.210.3448127141.5840504.17590 > > >This is a response to your advertisement on Classifieds2000. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Monochrome Display, $850, Used, South Orange, > > NJ > > >http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R17590 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- OKAY....You see that he (frank) also is/was using RONALD BLACK Alias ====== This Below is from when he was going as RONALD: This is a response to your advertisement on Classifieds2000. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $1,650, Used, New York, NY http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R14792 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is your G3/266 powerbook still available? ======== Now read below to see the simulairty of Ronald/Robert........ in the reply to the email above: ======= Jim: His (Ronald Black) reply under the name Betty Castrol and my comeback to him. DELETED NAME -------- Original Message -------- X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:11:21 -0500 From: DELETED NAMEReply-To: [email protected] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Betty Casrtol Subject: Re: Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 References: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ronald: Thanks for your quick response and it sounds just like what I want but have a few questions first. I've just started shopping for a powerbook; have never had one before but have used Macs for years. From what I've read, this model has the swappable floppy drive and CD drive, is that right? Also, does the Apple DVD player work with this model? If so, is it just the DVD drive or do you have to buy other hardware/software to use it? Note that the specs have this with a 4gb drive; did you upgrade to a 6.4gb drive? Also, not too familiar with zip drives - your ad said it came with an external zip drive. I have a son with a Umax with an internal zip drive - do these use the same disks? Sorry about so many questions but like I said, not overly familiar with these. Will await your response but am 99.9% sure that I'll buy it. Sorry I was busy and doubt I can do the Western Union thing by 8:30 but maybe I could. I would call them and use my credit card but I did this once before (I was the recipient of the check) and I had to tell the guy which Western Union facility to send the money to so that I'd know where to pick it up. So guess I'd need to know the full address of the western union place to send the money to. Would love to get it tomorrow. I've never done this large a transaction over the net before; what kinds of protections are built in for the buyer when using Western Union? Would have given you a call to discuss but don't have your phone number. Looking forward to your response. Thanks, DELETE NAME DELETE ADDRESS DELETE PHONE NUMBER Betty Casrtol wrote: > Hi. > Thank you for your interest in my G3 PowerBook. The condition is > immaculate.Comes in box with everything original. About 6 months > available > in the warrantee. With plenty of software, and a leather carry bag. I > purchased this computer below wholesale because I work for a University. > 64 > Meg Ram. 14 ich screen (high resolution active matrix). > Instead of sending a check and waiting a week for it to get to me before > I > can send you your computer, why don't you make your payment by Western > Union. Call 1-800-325-4176 to find out a location near you. You make > payment > to them, and they issue me a check. I need to go in person with my > drivers > license to pick up the check. You can also make payment over the > telephone > if you have a credit card. > This is instant, so I could overnight airmail the PowerBook on the same > day > you make payment. If you make payment before 9PM tonight you will get the > computer TOMORROW. Or I could hold it until tomorrow if you need a day. I > will put full insurance on the shipment. > I will pay the Western Union fee and the shipping charges. Tell Western > Union to make the payment to me for $1500 dollars. The $150 I deducted > will > cover the fee. After you make the payment, email me the control # you get > from Western Union and your shipping address. I will email you the > tracking > number I get from Fedex (after the computer has been shipped) so you know > when to expect it tomorrow. > Here is my name and address: > Ronald Black > 358 West 37th Street > Penthouse B > Bronx, New York 10019 > Let me know. If you want me to ship it today I need to hear from you by > 8:30 > this evening. If not, make the payment and I'll ship it first thing > tomorrow > morning. > Thank you, > Ronald Black ====================== See his ADDRESS? it is normally around the same area of NYC! And he AWALYS has a Female Email address that he sends trhru So You will think that he is living with or married to? ======================= Jim: My next question trying to get a warm fuzzy from him. Note he never quotes incoming emails. DELETED NAME Ronald: Just thought of two more questions: what is the Apple model number of the powerbook and why are you selling. Also, if you need to call me, it's probably better to use my second phone line as I pretty much keep the primary line tied up with internet stuff in the evenings. Number is: DELETED PHONE NUMBER DELETED NAME ============ His next reply. ============ Hi. I have the computer (Model G3/266) ready to ship to you. Email after you make payment. Ronald Black New York, New York. I have your address and number. I'll call you at home after I ship it. It is in mint condition and I will give you a money back guarantee if you are not happy when you get it. THe warrantee has about 6 months left, also. Tell the to make the payment for $1500 to me, the other $150 will cover the fee. Email me the control number. Bye Ronald ===== See how all his emails are soo FORMED and no personal typing entered? ===== Jim: My next inquiry - silence was deafening after this one. DELETED NAME ==== Ronald: Appreciate that you have the computer ready to ship but I'm not comfortable yet with this deal. I sent you two emails last night asking a few questions and this response doesn't address any of them. I really want to buy this but hesitate to send that amount of money. Would it be agreeable to you (I just live in Washington, DC) if I either drove or rode the train up and met you to complete the transaction? That would save me the hefty Western Union fee and save you the FEDEX fee. Would still like responses to the questions I asked yesterday. Waiting to hear from you. Thanks, DELETED ============ Jim: My final inquiry to the scumbag. DELETED NAME ============ Ronald: I'm ready to head up to New York to buy your computer but haven't heard back from you. Is there a problem? DELETED NAME ============= Jim: Response to my daughter's inquiry; apparently didn't keep her intial email but that shouldn't be important. Note this guy is Ronald Black and address is very similar. DELETED NAME =========== Jim: Me again, still wanting to believe that the offer was legitimate - no reply. DELETED NAME Ronald: I've been out of town for a week but see that I've gotten no reply from you regarding your powerbook. Must be because 1) You've already sold it; 2) It wasn't a legitimate offer in the first place; or 3) You just don't want to sell it to me. Want you to know that I'm still interested if it's still available and I can meet you to pick it up. Looking forward to hearing from you. DELETED NAME -============ Jim: Another inquiry to another post that popped up a couple of weeks later. This is it - good luck on bringing that scumbag to justice. DELETED ============= Powerbook: Apple G3, 750, Color Display, $850, Used, New York, NY http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R16289 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this powerbook still available? Is this the same party that had the G3/266 available a couple of weeks ago? ============= So Think this over....... HOW MANY MONTHS, YEARS HAS THIS PERSON BEEN SCAMMING????? Come on now!!!! This has got to stop NOW!!!!! ============== Okay Now there seems to be someone that thinks I AM SCAMMING???? I replied to this person, Informing what is happening, He might be a investigator...??? (hope that he is on the case) And CAN HELP US!!!!!! =============== Your Macintosh Powerbook ad on Classifieds2000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:53:21 -0700 From: DELETED EMAIL ADDRESS To: [email protected] This is a response to your advertisement on Excite Classifieds & Auctions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powerbook: Apple G3, 68030, Color Display, $800, Used, Latrobe, PA http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C7+R20007 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- great price! perhaps you could check some of the specs Processor 68030 never ran faster than 33 interested would like to discuss. Floyd Contact Information: 1-DELETED PHONE call collect after 5pm california ================ Here is My reply to above: ================ Dear DELETED NAME: The Reason I placed the ad on the classifieds, is that there is some other person that Scammed me, and some other people out of money......In that ad I placed a other info that askes people to read the following about a Scammer, and to copy past the link to the browser.. (below is the live link) As Classifieds 2000 do not allow live links, We are trying to gain enough information on the original scammer that has many names (NYC) to help the FBI and other agencies make this person Stop the scam, and hopefully be put away for a long time as punishment.... Thank You for your email, And please read the link ....And FORWARD to as many other Mac users..... (he is even prying on PC users) As far as the Specs, I know that they are off in the speeds, I want to have the ad as close to his as possibe....... Sincerly Jim Gracie C/C File * ------------------------------------------------------- DON'T Become a Scam Victim...Read this: http://business.fortunecity.com/lucar/865/ ------------------------------------------------------- I got info last night from a person that was told to call NYC (Copied) Hi, Thank you for coming forward with your help. Yes there is an investigation that is taking place right now in NY. Please contact Don Callahan 212-374-4247, he works for the NYPD's Computer Fraud Division. Please give him all your details of what happened. Including names, addresses, etc. Thank you, it's people like you that reassure me to trust others again. Hope to hear from you again. ----- There are now many emails from different people that have had the same replies by who i know as Frank, but hs is a chameleon and changes names more that his clothes. But with hope, we will be able to track him down with his electric footprints........... These will be placed on the web page link at later date, I delete out the senders email address and other personal information for the web, but these people all want to be contacted when this case goes to prosecution...... If you have any other ideas on how to catch this scammer, please reply! End -0- 5/18/99 7:55 am EST ============================================ End of UPDATE 5/18/99 At 11:00 AM EST ============================================= http://www.macaddict.com/ I placed the link on the RANT BOARD! ============================= okay here is a Kicker 18:25:54 EST Re: Your ad has been removed from Excite Classifieds & Auctions Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:05:43 -0400 From: " ICQ#11852244 AOL IM: AquapetInc eFax number (815) 371-2272" Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: http://www.shopofhorrors.com SAFE Online Credit Card ordering --->> http://www.shopofhorrors.com/ushop/ To: Excite References: 1 Excite wrote: > Thank you for placing an ad with Excite Classifieds & Auctions. > > The ad you recently placed with us has been deleted during our Ad > Review process. It was deleted because we determined the ad was a in > violation in of our Terms of Participation. > > By posting an ad, you agree NOT to violate our Terms of Participation. > Below is a partial list of ad standards, for a complete index of our > guidelines, please see our Terms of Participation at: > > http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/display.exe?c2k+TermsAndConditions > > � False ads > > � Duplicate ads > > � Ads placed in the wrong categories or areas > > � Ads containing URLs (web addresses) http://www... > > � Advertising or solicitation of our users to buy or sell products or services > > � Sexually explicit or sexually suggestive material or photos > > � In Personals, ads containing phone numbers or street addresses (for your > own safety) > > Thank you. > > Excite Classifieds & Auctions Customer Support Department FIne!!!!! I am glad that you allow people TO SCAM ON YOUR CLASSIFIEDS!!!! *BUT* when people that HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF Try to WARN OTHER POTENTIAL VICTIMS............ If you would HAVE HELPED when I and OTHERS PLEADED...... I personally know that one person in NEW YORK has placed MANY False Ads............ Sincerly Jim "One of many taken on your classifieds" -- ------------------------------------------------------- DON'T Become a Scam Victim...Read this: http://business.fortunecity.com/lucar/865/ -------------------------------------------------------
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